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[arethinn]

I'm not sure where "truth" fits in, but loyalty is part of honor to me. To go "well, you did something I don't approve of, therefore you are no longer my friend" seems wrong to me, honorless. It has to be really bad before I would make such a decision. Loyalty, sticking by the people one has chosen to stick by, seems more important to me than the personal-honor thing which would require one to disassociate from any "stained" person on principle. It's like hey, you said you were throwing in your lot with them, and to withdraw that is breaking a commitment... I guess it can come down to what are the criteria for what's "bad enough". Could that be where "truth" fits in?

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[weasel420.livejournal.com]

What about divergences from your own particular morality? What about broken trust? Doesn't this constitute a reason for discarding loyalty?

[rialian.livejournal.com]

===For me, Friendship is a separate issue to honor....and personal honor outweighs the bonds of friendship in many things for me. I do not believe there can be true friendship without that distinction...because you get exactly that statement of "well, you did something I don't approve of, therefore you are no longer my friend"...

===Just because someone does something that one does not agree with does not destroy the state of friendship.

[arethinn]

What about divergences from your own particular morality?

As mentioned, has to be pretty bad before I will consider breaking up a friendship over it. (y'know, child molestation, or something)

What about broken trust? Doesn't this constitute a reason for discarding loyalty?

I would more just distance myself a bit emotionally in such a case, which I guess would mean a taming of fierce loyalty if it were there. That I think of someone as a flake or untrustworthy doesn't mean they wouldn't be welcome at my parties, or that I would likely change my opinion about being around them in general.