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Okay... I like Firefox in general (and [livejournal.com profile] rialian was right, I groove on the cute icon), but there are just some things about it that operate differently from Mozilla that annoy me. Some/a lot/all of these were in Firebird, too, and were deal-killers for me. It remains to be seen if they will be so again.

1. Single history list, rather than separate ones for each tab. Clicking Back in each tab works as I expect it to, but if I want to jump back several steps via the Go menu, the pages are listed there in order of most recently loaded overall, rather than most recently loaded in that tab.

2. Download manager doesn't give an option for "progress window only" (which is my preference), and behaves quirkily and inconsistently (notification of completion only pops up somtimes; that popup sometimes interferes with a new download and I have to cancel and restart; etc.), although I understand that may be partly because this is still a 0.x release.

3. No Bookmarks button on Personal Toolbar, only Bookmarks menu. (Then again, with my attempts to use the mouse less, I am often just keeping a separate bookmark window open anyway, getting there by alt-Tab and navigaing by cursor keys, but see #4.)

4. Pressing ctrl-B doesn't bring up the Bookmark Manager, it brings up a bookmark sidebar. No single keyboard shortcut for Bookmark Manager; you have to use the menu (although you can press alt-B-M to do so).

5. Pressing ctrl-D doesn't silently append the current page as a bookmark to the end of the bookmarks file; rather, it always pops up asking you to file the bookmark (which was only accessed by shift-ctrl-D in Mozilla). Though it does remember last location so you don't always have to pull the menu down to "Bookmarks" to file it there, it is an extra click/keystroke/steal of focus which annoys me.

6. Preferences are under Tools > Options, like IE, rather than Edit > Preferences like Netscape and Mozilla. (Minor annoyance; I can probably get used to this, although I haven't yet, in two days of using Firefox at work and at home.)

7. Preferences has some kind of bug, most annoying in initial setting of preferences, that if I change some settings, switch to another tab of preferences, change some more, etc., clicking OK at the end of it all does not close the window. One has to click Close and thus, lose all changes. Only workaround I know of is to set all preferences one tab at a time, clicking OK between each pass. Awfully annoying to have to go to Tools > Options six or seven times to get all the preferences tweaked.

Date: Feb. 11th, 2004 04:55 pm (UTC)From: [identity profile] doublefeh.livejournal.com
I gave it a try, and my biggest problem was that there was no way to disable tabs. I've gotten entirely used to some of the conveniences of non-tabbed stuff, and am not going to bother switching from Safari if it means I have to get used to tabs.

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Date: Feb. 11th, 2004 05:03 pm (UTC)From: [identity profile] starlightforest.livejournal.com
What do you mean? You can say "hide the tab bar when only one website is open", and then just not use the tab functions (ctrl-t for new tab, ctrl-click for open link in new tab..) You're still able to do New Window and Open Link in New Window just like always...

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Date: Feb. 11th, 2004 05:09 pm (UTC)From: [identity profile] doublefeh.livejournal.com
Hm, it might just be a Mac-version issue. I use command-click as a shortcut for "open link in new window" a lot, and Firefox defaults that to "open link in new tab". No apparent way to change it.

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Date: Feb. 11th, 2004 05:22 pm (UTC)From: [identity profile] starlightforest.livejournal.com
Oh yeah, you're a Mac person. I dunno then. I assume you tried option-click, command-shift-click, etc etc various combinations of modifier keys?

(I find it odd that tabbing takes "getting used to". It seems to me to be superior to windowing because then there's only one button on my taskbar. I have little experience of OS X (which I assume you're using) so I have no idea how that would equate to your Mac experience, "taskbar real estate" is even an issue.)

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Date: Feb. 11th, 2004 06:35 pm (UTC)From: [identity profile] dreamfall.livejournal.com
You know what else I dislike about it is the same thing I dislike about Netscape - it's a blabbermouth browser. People can hate on IE all they want, but it doesn't blabber near as much data about your computer as the other two do on weblogs.

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Date: Feb. 11th, 2004 07:13 pm (UTC)From: [identity profile] starlightforest.livejournal.com
I'm not sure what you mean (my usual interpretation of "weblog" doesn't seem to fit here). If you don't want Talkback to do anything, you just click "no, you can't send any information back to Mozilla"...?

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