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Bah. Anaar's Feri class is going to be on a weeknight at 7. I guess the question of whether I should start a class I am hoping I will not be able to complete (as in, I hope to have moved away before too much longer) is moot. Ah well. Guess this isn't the time for me to be taking Feri training. (Course, there isn't any in the Toronto area, so it was pretty much now or never. Guess I'm supposed to be sticking to my Underworld/tradcraft/own-Faery stuff.)

Date: Mar. 7th, 2005 10:47 pm (UTC)From: [identity profile] rhiannasilel.livejournal.com
Personally, I think a lot of the otherworld type magicks can't really be taught and they do seem to work better when you just kind of do them by feel on your own, so perhaps you aren't really missing anything. True, you can guide and point in a direction, but when it comes right down to it I think you're on your own for a lot of it. (Just my personal opinion, of course.)

In any event, should the move go through as scheduled you'll be more relaxed and in a much better space to practice nearly any type of magick you choose to practice. I find practicing magick flows a lot more smoothly when I'm not under intense amounts of strain and pressure. So, perhaps after the move to Toronto, you'll be able to do all the things you would have learned in the class and more because you will be in the space that you want to be in.

Date: Mar. 7th, 2005 11:05 pm (UTC)From: [identity profile] starlightforest.livejournal.com
Personally, I think a lot of the otherworld type magicks can't really be taught and they do seem to work better when you just kind of do them by feel on your own, so perhaps you aren't really missing anything.

Hmm, I think you have a misconception of what Feri is about (at least, as far as I can tell, not having taken any training). While it is certainly a unique tradition of neo-pagan witchcraft, it is a tradition of neo-pagan witchcraft nonetheless. The more I read and attend workshops at PCon and stuff, the more I can see, yes, I think I get how this is a way for a human to become "fey" (in adjectival sense), especially as it relates to wild animal innocence/purity and the wielding of magic, but though it does include practice of trance possession, which is "otherworldly" in a sense, it is not very "faery" in the Celtic-flavour Dreaming-Underworld sort of way. I believe that calling it "Faery" (the original spelling for it IIRC) came about from the interaction with elemental powers in the natural world. (This isn't what I think of as "faery", but is, AFAIK, why the term was applied in this case.)

Date: Mar. 8th, 2005 06:01 am (UTC)From: [identity profile] rhiannasilel.livejournal.com
Ah, okay. Sorry for the misassumption on my part. It does sound rather interesting.

Date: Mar. 7th, 2005 11:50 pm (UTC)From: [identity profile] bluesidhe.livejournal.com
You will certain be missed, Tass, certainly!

To add to your reply to rhiannasilel, I would add that Feri training "prepares" you for the current of "Fey energy" that the family of initiates gives when you are initiated...it is elemental and ecstatic and powerful. So one must be trained in preparation for it. You can't learn the energy. It is given by the Gods through those who have the energy.

At least this is my take on it...

Blue!

Date: Mar. 8th, 2005 03:16 am (UTC)From: [identity profile] starlightforest.livejournal.com
*nods* Having been a traditionalist Wiccan initiate, I am familiar with the concept of a certain "current" being passed by other initiates who already have it. It also comes up in the Underworld tradition, in that someone who has never been to the physical place in which a contact or current is rooted needs to take the spiritual journeys under the guidance of someone who has, because it is their contact experience which mediates the power to the person who has not been there. (This is not to say that you can't work with any of the material without visiting physical locations, but that it becomes much different and more effective to have either the physical or the person "key" to it.) While I could probably tap something on my own which would be as worthwhile to me, it wouldn't be the same thing and might not necessarily have similar effect.

Date: Mar. 8th, 2005 02:58 am (UTC)From: [identity profile] johnnybrainwash.livejournal.com
Best way to make the Canadians come through is to get involved in something you won't want to leave.

Date: Mar. 8th, 2005 03:11 am (UTC)From: [identity profile] starlightforest.livejournal.com
Perversely true, but when I said "moot", I meant it. The time and date of the class are impossible for me to attend. There's no way I can get involved in this, even though I want to.

Toronto

Date: Mar. 9th, 2005 05:36 pm (UTC)From: [identity profile] rainman1432003.livejournal.com
I was recently in Montreal (not that far from Toronto) and I usually check out all the listings on Witchvox so see if there are any pagan stores in the area to visit and I seem to recall that there are quite a few shops up there, and if that is an indication of the level of interest in the area, you might be able to find a few kin up there. Remember to wave when you fly by Pennsylvania. I also make infrequent trips up to New Brunswick to visit my relatives (eh, I'm french-canadian/native american). I like Toronto bettern than Montreal anyway. My wife wants to visit there, so we may make a trip in the next couple of years...Maybe we all can meet on the boardwalk...

Re: Toronto

Date: Mar. 9th, 2005 07:33 pm (UTC)From: [identity profile] starlightforest.livejournal.com
Remember to wave when you fly by Pennsylvania

*scratches head* Pennsylvania is further east than Toronto, and I am coming from California. As it happens once a year I drive from Toronto to PA, but I don't pass over it in any of my travels.

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