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"By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, and in order to help the Federal Government coordinate a national effort to expand opportunities for faith-based and other community organizations and to strengthen their capacity to better meet America's social and community needs, it is hereby ordered as follows:

Section 1. Establishment of a Center for Faith-Based and Community Initiatives at the Department of Homeland Security.

(a) The Secretary of Homeland Security (Secretary) shall establish within the Department of Homeland Security (Department) a Center for Faith-Based and Community Initiatives (Center).

[...]

(i) a comprehensive analysis of the barriers to the full participation of faith-based and other community organizations in the delivery of social and community services identified pursuant to section 3(a) of this order and the proposed strategies to eliminate those barriers..."

Soo... the DHS is supposed to help get rid of "barriers" to "faith-based organizations"? In other words, it's somehow a matter of national defense that such organizations be allowed to do what they want? And what about that pesky "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion" thing? (Sure, it doesn't say "there shall be no executive orders..., now does it?) I'm seeing government support of religious activity here. Tell me I've misread this, please.

Nope

Date: Mar. 8th, 2006 11:37 pm (UTC)From: [identity profile] hyldemoerwitch.livejournal.com
He's a scumsucking leach that gives no hope for civil rights of any kind. There is an act in congress that stipulates that a President in a time of war, can be voted into another term by congress....

Re: Nope

Date: Mar. 9th, 2006 01:35 am (UTC)From: [identity profile] johnnybrainwash.livejournal.com
Sorry. They can introduce all the bills they want, but they can't do something like this by an act of Congress. They'd have to amend the Constitution (in two different places), and that's not easy to do.

Re: Nope

Date: Mar. 9th, 2006 03:32 am (UTC)From: [identity profile] hyldemoerwitch.livejournal.com
Its already a provision in the Constitution, that during a time of war (which the US is currently in) a sitting President can stay in office if voted so by the congress. There would be no change in the Constitution, and the House and Senate are pretty much Rethugs...

Re: Nope

Date: Mar. 9th, 2006 03:44 am (UTC)From: [identity profile] johnnybrainwash.livejournal.com
Cite, please. I don't recall that being in the Constitution, and I don't see it in the copy I have in front of me.

There may be a law regarding catastrophic emergencies (which would have been written with a nuclear war in mind), but it wouldn't pass the most basic constitutional scrutiny unless there really wasn't much left beyond a pile of smoking rubble. At which point, of course, the Constitution wouldn't be anyone's top priority.

Re: Nope

Date: Mar. 9th, 2006 03:33 am (UTC)From: [identity profile] hyldemoerwitch.livejournal.com
sorry I was not more clear in my initial reply.

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