Dammit... I'm sorry to have contributed to your consternation.
I don't personally think I'm siding "with Rialian" so much as "against stupidity and bullshit".
I'll agree I haven't really got both sides of stuff... I spent a little while hanging out on KinFrontiers a couple of weeks back, seeing what stuff was going on there -- but there wasn't any of the stuff Rialian's talking about, and the flood of messages was just too much for me.
You'll notice I've pretty much dropped the issue, on the basis that I don't have all the facts. I wasn't at WtT, I wasn't on KF when the relevant stuff was being said...
I do maintain that if people are claiming that they're killing people, if they're claiming to be "above the law", "judge, jury and executioner", and especially claiming jurisdiction over all Otherkin -- by some mystical mandate from "the ancestors of the Otherkin" (huh?) -- then I will certainly call them on their bullshit. But, since I'm mostly off the lists, I haven't seen it happening lately.
Which leaves me feeling pretty weird. On the one hand, I'm realizing that I'm fairly disconnected from the community these days. There are pretty few gathers here on the West Coast (though I am interested in your idea on WestKin, and will respond there), and I simply don't have the time to keep up with the bulk of teh major email lists.
OTOH, maybe that says something right there. Maybe I should just be a solitary 'Kin, and get used to it?
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Date: Jan. 6th, 2003 01:40 pm (UTC)From:I don't personally think I'm siding "with Rialian" so much as "against stupidity and bullshit".
I'll agree I haven't really got both sides of stuff... I spent a little while hanging out on KinFrontiers a couple of weeks back, seeing what stuff was going on there -- but there wasn't any of the stuff Rialian's talking about, and the flood of messages was just too much for me.
You'll notice I've pretty much dropped the issue, on the basis that I don't have all the facts. I wasn't at WtT, I wasn't on KF when the relevant stuff was being said...
I do maintain that if people are claiming that they're killing people, if they're claiming to be "above the law", "judge, jury and executioner", and especially claiming jurisdiction over all Otherkin -- by some mystical mandate from "the ancestors of the Otherkin" (huh?) -- then I will certainly call them on their bullshit. But, since I'm mostly off the lists, I haven't seen it happening lately.
Which leaves me feeling pretty weird. On the one hand, I'm realizing that I'm fairly disconnected from the community these days. There are pretty few gathers here on the West Coast (though I am interested in your idea on WestKin, and will respond there), and I simply don't have the time to keep up with the bulk of teh major email lists.
OTOH, maybe that says something right there. Maybe I should just be a solitary 'Kin, and get used to it?
I don't really like that option, either.